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Post by captphil211 on Jan 20, 2024 19:12:25 GMT
Here are some US full sheets I've gathered over the years. I've had many of these since I was a teenager in the 1970s. US sc 1427-30, Wildlife Conservation, 1971. This was the second jumbo size issue. US sc 1448-51, Cape Hatteras National Seashore, National Parks Centennial issue, 1972. I think this was one of the most beautiful issues we've had. US sc 1712-15, the Butterfly issue, 1977. Neat visual rythms.
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Post by khj on Jan 21, 2024 4:11:29 GMT
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Post by Ted Talks Stamps on Jan 21, 2024 20:36:09 GMT
Here are some US full sheets I've gathered over the years. I've had many of these since I was a teenager in the 1970s. US sc 1427-30, Wildlife Conservation, 1971. This was the first jumbo size issue. US sc 1448-51, Cape Hatteras National Seashore, National Parks Centennial issue, 1972. I think this was one of the most beautiful issues we've had. US sc 1712-15, the Butterfly issue, 1977. Neat visual rythms. This shows my lack of expertise in US. While I never really gave it any thought, if I had thought about it, I would have thought that all US panes were 50 or 100 until the modern mini-pane came along. What other sub-50 panes are there for US?
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Post by ClassicPhilatelist on Jan 21, 2024 23:07:28 GMT
Depends, modern or classic?
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Post by captphil211 on Jan 22, 2024 1:20:30 GMT
Actually, more than a few in what we call the Modern Era. I'm still not a collector of US, but frankly, we have had some very attractive issues and the 1970s jumbo stamps were part of it. US sc 1440-43, Historic Preservation Issue, 1971. Keep in mind that until the 1990s we were limited by the capabilities of the presses we had. The stamps were larger, but the sheets were the same size as the 50x commemorative sheets.
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Post by captphil211 on Jan 22, 2024 1:36:23 GMT
Here is another example of larger stamps on the standard sized sheet. The Lafayette sheet has 40 stamps instead of 32. US sc 1716, Bicentennial of Lafayette's landing north of Charleston, 1977. Just by the by, here in Tennessee (the Great State of Denial), we don't pronounce "Lafayette" the way you do. La-FAY-yette is a street in down town Nashville, as well as a small town in central Tennessee and a county in west Tennessee. That's LA-FAY-yette.
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Post by captphil211 on Jan 22, 2024 1:43:36 GMT
US 1942-45, Desert Cactus Issue, 1981. I think this is one of our best looking issues, ever. Again, although there is a lot of freedom with using perforations as part of the design, the sheet is still limited to that standard size.
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Post by captphil211 on Jan 22, 2024 1:53:17 GMT
Finally for tonight, this is US sc 3130-31, Pacific '97 Expo, 1997. Here everything has changed and the designer has much wider license: small sheet, 16 stamps, triangles no less, and even the gum on the back is different.
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Post by khj on Jan 22, 2024 4:56:29 GMT
Just to clarify, what many of us call US mint sheets (including most dealers) are actually mint panes cut from the mint sheet (what we today usually call press sheet to avoid confusion). So technically, everything that has been shown in this thread are full panes, not full sheets. Just a technicality. Therefore, what we buy from the regular post office are full panes and booklet panes. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), the post office doesn't sell uncut press sheets for booklet panes, nor uncut press sheets/rolls for coils. I know nobody at USPS is reading this post. There are a small number of examples where a single press sheet was used to print 2 different stamps (the consumer never realizes the different stamps were originally from the same press sheet, because we only see the panes cut from that press sheet!). Therefore, on those stamps, the plate block does not exist for all 4 corner positions.
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Post by ClassicPhilatelist on Jan 22, 2024 7:42:23 GMT
And the last one that Phil posted (Pacific 97' International Stamp Exhibition) is technically a souvenir sheet, or a sheetlet, much the same way the $2 Inverted Jenny reprint from 2013 is. Press sheets of the Jenny do exist in both perforated and imperf (I know because I have them). But that is a rare exception, because the post office did this as a promotion to bring new collectors into the fold, and give existing collectors a chance at a "golden ticket".
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Post by captphil211 on Jan 22, 2024 9:58:14 GMT
Yeah, yeah, I get. It's just one of those things: tomato--tornado, Tobago--tobaggin. Still, if I went down to my friendly local post office and asked to see some panes, they'd look at me like I's crazy and ask me to leave...
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Post by ClassicPhilatelist on Jan 22, 2024 11:23:05 GMT
Phil, we all know the post office asks you to leave the moment you walk in...
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Post by Ted Talks Stamps on Jan 22, 2024 14:29:51 GMT
There are a small number of examples where a single press sheet was used to print 2 different stamps (the consumer never realizes the different stamps were originally from the same press sheet, because we only see the panes cut from that press sheet!). Therefore, on those stamps, the plate block does not exist for all 4 corner positions. Verrrry interesting. You wouldn't have any Scott numbers handy, would you?
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Post by khj on Jan 22, 2024 21:44:27 GMT
I don't have my Durland with me (it's on my list of books to digitize). So I can't check until tomorrow. But off the top of my head, I know there were at least 4 commemoratives on one press sheet and also 2 airmail stamps on one press sheet. I think the 4 commemoratives were the 20¢ soil conservation, 20¢ FDIC, 20¢ love, and 20¢ Woodson. I think the airmails were the 33¢ Verville and 39¢ Sperry (although I think the Sperry later got a press sheet all to itself). Don't hold me to that yet, I really need to check the Durland when I get home to confirm. I definitely don't remember which pane position each stamp was printed. That was just a test, and they quickly dropped the idea. I collect US airmails as matched plate blocks (still waiting to get that inverted Jenny plate block). That's how I ran into that tidbit. When you collect full panes, you get to notice a lot of other interesting tests: printing same stamp in a different color, printing 2 different stamps in half panes instead of alternating setenants, same stamps printed in 4 pane or 6 pane press sheet formats... The classic era sheet layouts are really interesting, but since I can't afford them even if they existed, I defer to the known references or Scott ( ClassicPhilatelist).
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Post by khj on Jan 22, 2024 21:46:52 GMT
And the last one that Phil posted (Pacific 97' International Stamp Exhibition) is technically a souvenir sheet, or a sheetlet, much the same way the $2 Inverted Jenny reprint from 2013 is. Press sheets of the Jenny do exist in both perforated and imperf (I know because I have them). But that is a rare exception, because the post office did this as a promotion to bring new collectors into the fold, and give existing collectors a chance at a "golden ticket". I did go get the press sheet for the Pacific 97 because I was interested in the triangle design. But I passed on the Jenny press sheet -- I had stopped collecting every recent US issue by then, and the face value was too rich for my blood.
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